June 30, 2014

Ask questions all you want ................ or not.

My response and review (in italics) of the church’s statement regarding recent excommunications, discipline and dissent. It can be found here: https://www.lds.org/prophets-and-apostles/june-first-presidency-statement?lang=eng

June 28, 2014
In God's plan for the happiness and eternal progression of His children, the blessings of His priesthood are equally available to men and women. Only men are ordained to serve in priesthood offices. These two sentences contradict each other. Especially when you consider how much men are taught that the largest portion of the blessings received from the priesthood are from calling fulfillment. Women have no way to benefit from this.

All service in the Church has equal merit in the eyes of God. No it really doesn’t. To 15 geriatric, heavily indoctrinated, egocentric and out of touch men it may have equal merit. If god was real I doubt he’d be as douchey as these 15 men (yes, most likely unintentionally and ignorantly) are.

We understand that from time to time Church members will have questions about Church doctrine, history, or practice. Members are always free to ask such questions and earnestly seek greater understanding. This may be true but you have to ask in a certain way, to certain people and if you don’t do it THEIR way you are threatened (I know this form personal experience).

We feel special concern, however, for members who distance themselves from Church doctrine or practice and, by advocacy, encourage others to follow them. Of course you do. It threatens your precious worldview that you believe to be infallible.

Simply asking questions has never constituted apostasy. Many have been excommunicated for this despite this claim.
Apostasy is repeatedly acting in clear, open, and deliberate public opposition to the Church or its faithful leaders, or persisting, after receiving counsel, in teaching false doctrine. So by this logic, most of the previous prophets should have been ex’d because of the false doctrine they taught such as blood atonement, Adam-God doctrine and the like.

The Council of The First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
C’mon brethren, sign your actual freakin’ names. This looks like another generic release from President Newsroom.

In summary, this statement is simply just more PR spin. Man up brethren and confront the issues head on!

February 17, 2014

Day of Reckoning…… maybe…… hopefully

As mentioned in my post The LDS Church has lied and deliberately concealed historical facts to maintain a clean image I talk about Lying for the Lord. Well what appears to be the first hopefully substantial attempt at making someone responsible for their fraudulent ways has begun. Thomas Monson has officially been legally summoned to the UK court on 3/14/2014 to appear and respond to allegations of fraud. Most media outlets that even reported this legal action have been quick to dismiss these allegations as frivolous.  I mostly agreed with these opinions until I was able to find out more about the 2006 ruling in the UK against scientology. Thankfully the UK is not giving the religious free pass that is demanded in the US for these corporate religious such as the LDS Church. Although I have no delusions that Tommy will be extradited and arrested, I think this may set a great precedent for a few things:
- Religions can in fact commit fraud by making demonstrably false claims
- The LDS Church will have to reconsider what it means to be in full fellowship through tithes
- The LDS Church will have to actually admit to these whitewashed doctrinal and historical issues

I know it is wishful thinking but my fingers crossed that the church will have to fess up to the lies they have perpetuated for years that causes such financial and emotional damage.
For some more information, please see these great links:


Mormonthink profile on the man behind the charges- Tom Phillips

Infants on Thrones Podcast interview with Tom Phillips

Mormon Stories Podcast (unpublished) with Tom Phillips on his second anointing

The Mormonthink info page dedicated to the court summons

Two radio interviews Tom Phillips and Tal Bachman did about these issues: